OpenSUSE 11.x gone?

[dgarstang]

All,

I'm a new user here, but my coworkers tell me that we used to be able to build OpenSUSE 11.x appliances. Well, they seem to be gone. Now there's just OpenSUSE 12.1 and SLES 11 SP1.

Can we build OpenSUSE 11.x appliances? The latest and greatest might work for a home user but it doesn't work for real world productions. Can we pay more to get access to this?

Douglas.

[James T.]

Hi Douglas,

On 02/28/2012 06:40 AM, dgarstang wrote:
> I'm a new user here, but my coworkers tell me that we used to be able to
> build OpenSUSE 11.x appliances. Well, they seem to be gone. Now there's just
> OpenSUSE 12.1 and SLES 11 SP1.
>
> Can we build OpenSUSE 11.x appliances? The latest and greatest might work
> for a home user but it doesn't work for real world productions. Can we pay
> more to get access to this?

We want to encourage users to create new appliances based on the latest
available base system, hence we do not show the older ones in the
"create new appliance" page.

As a workaround, you can look for openSUSE 11.x appliances in the
Gallery (susegallery.com) and clone it as a starting point for your
appliance.

Do note that openSUSE 11.4 will no longer receive updates from 15 Sept
2012 onwards [1]. Also, we will be releasing SLE11 SP2 support soon.

Hope that helps!

[1] http://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime

--
James Tan
Engineering Manager, SUSE Studio
Maxfeldstr. 5,
90409 Nürnberg, Germany
SUSE

[jdd]

Le 28/02/2012 17:13, James Tan a écrit :

> As a workaround, you can look for openSUSE 11.x appliances in the
> Gallery (susegallery.com) and clone it as a starting point for your
> appliance.

soone can still compile old appliance without udating?

thanks
jdd


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[James T.]

On 02/28/2012 05:28 PM, jdd wrote:
> Le 28/02/2012 17:13, James Tan a écrit :
>
>> As a workaround, you can look for openSUSE 11.x appliances in the
>> Gallery (susegallery.com) and clone it as a starting point for your
>> appliance.
>
> soone can still compile old appliance without udating?

Yes that's right. But if it's older than the last version (eg. openSUSE
11.3 now), we won't support it.

--
James Tan
Engineering Manager, SUSE Studio
Maxfeldstr. 5,
90409 Nürnberg, Germany
SUSE

[dgarstang]

James,

That's really unfortunate, and honestly quite a surprising statement, as anyone who has worked in the real world knows that the latest is not always compatible with business needs.

The same applies to building our own appliances from someone else's. How do we know what's installed on the appliance? How do we know isn't broken? How do we know that it doesn't have some sort of a backdoor trojan?

Douglas.

[Freemyer]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:25 PM, dgarstang <[hidden email]> wrote:

> James,
>
> That's really unfortunate, and honestly quite a surprising statement, as
> anyone who has worked in the real world knows that the latest is not always
> compatible with business needs.
>
> The same applies to building our own appliances from someone else's. How do
> we know what's installed on the appliance? How do we know isn't broken? How
> do we know that it doesn't have some sort of a backdoor trojan?
>
> Douglas.

Douglas,

I'm just a studio user, but most of your questions are obvious:

>> How do we know what's installed on the appliance?

Look at the package list.  It's easily done.  It provides a list of
every package and the repository it came from.  And if anything was
uploaded directly as opposed to coming from the opensuse build farm
(OBS).

If that couldn't be done, the entire gallery concept would be useless.
 No one would be able to trust it.  Since susestudio does make that
information easily seen, the appliances you can get from studio are
much easier to audit than most boot disks out there.

>> How do we know isn't broken?

Once it's cloned you can fix it if it is.

>> How do we know that it doesn't have some sort of a backdoor trojan?

Remember the source of every package on the appliance is easily audited.

(I've done it in under a minute for appliances that use all official
repos.  You just scan the list of repositories and note they are all
official, your done.)

Once it's cloned you can delete anything from a source you don't
trust, and add packages you do trust.

Greg